tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3403328333335592440.post3967651909345978924..comments2023-10-08T11:15:17.083+03:00Comments on Open Minded Torah: Current Events: Sociology, Tommy Lapid and the 'Ultra-Orthodox' Response.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08814307794629407094noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3403328333335592440.post-33403905262725054782008-06-05T08:43:00.000+03:002008-06-05T08:43:00.000+03:00Personally I'm not surprised at all that there has...Personally I'm not surprised at all that there hasn't been any harsh criticism of this man at this point especially by the right as at this point it would be a serious offence i.e. Tazria-Metzora: Guard your tongue from evil. Superstitious (just in case it is true) or religious I think Halacha got to the paparazzi. <BR/>"this principle is extended from the living to the dead. Immanuel ben Shlomo, 13th century Hebrew poet who lived in Rome, warned: "De mortuis nil nisi bonum" (Do not speak ill of the dead). Clearly, the dead are not able to defend themselves."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373066290179840383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3403328333335592440.post-19516141406871785462008-06-04T18:05:00.000+03:002008-06-04T18:05:00.000+03:00Hello Bill - since I was a bit surprised by this p...Hello Bill - since I was a bit surprised by this posting of yours, I thought this counter-example, might help in putting things into perspective as far as Yossi Lapid is concerned. Rabbi Meir Lau, the former chief rabbi of Israel, wrote an "hesped" on Ynet - it's reported on Failed Messiah (that guy is really good...): http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2008/06/former-chief-ra.html<BR/><BR/>Enjoy... as always things are much more complicated than what they seem...Yaakov Mascettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08564611817774035048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3403328333335592440.post-43408501409915835062008-06-04T07:38:00.000+03:002008-06-04T07:38:00.000+03:00Bill: I've re-read the blog on Lapid and your comm...Bill: I've re-read the blog on Lapid and your comments on it too, another time, before I comment again. What I'd also like to point out is the fact that Lapid was rightfully against the phenomenon of religious exploitation of State funds - yeshivas et al. If a lot of these people learn all day, do not pay taxes, do not serve in the army and do not contribute to the economy of the country, then why should the middle class (which btw includes you too Bill) pay for them all? There is a profound and disgusting situation of injustice which seems to be hard to end - Lapid was against it. Does that make him a bad Jew? Does that make him a person who is refusing his inner sparks? Hmmm... It's not only a matter of politics - it is also a matter of social justice. The day haredim, all haredim, will work, respond to drafts, pay taxes, not live on state funded cheques, and so on, that day people like Lapid will have absolutely nothing to say. --Yaakov Mascettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08564611817774035048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3403328333335592440.post-88899579258352458962008-06-03T21:26:00.000+03:002008-06-03T21:26:00.000+03:00There are so many things which Lapid and Shinui fo...There are so many things which Lapid and Shinui fought for in the parliament that it is a bit reductive to label him, yet again, as anti-religious. I agree with Bill when he says that sociological elements put a wedge between people rather than bringing them together. But, on the other hand, Haredi orthodoxy has found the way to define itself, in a rather stiff and etymological manner, as the bastion of the Right Opinion - which is simply wrong, simply wrong. People like Lapid disagreed. Beyond the narratives of sparks and souls searching for Torah (hmmm), one should appreciate more the work that Lapid did for the Israeli society...Yaakov Mascettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08564611817774035048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3403328333335592440.post-55562386993269662582008-06-03T11:23:00.000+03:002008-06-03T11:23:00.000+03:00another interesting thing to note is that original...another interesting thing to note is that originally, when he was brash and in politics, people called him anti-Haredi and anti-religious. Now they are saying he was not so, rather he was anti-religious coercion but not anti-religious.<BR/><BR/>I guess time away gives one a different perspective than in the heat of battle.Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.com